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The Roots of Pedophilia - by Sam Vaknin
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The Roots of Pedophilia
By Sam Vaknin
Author of "Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited"

Michael Jackson was just found innocent on all ten charges of child molestation by a
jury. But what was he actually charged with? What is pedophilia?

Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and act on their sexual fantasies.
It is a startling fact that the etiology of this paraphilia is unknown. Pedophiles
comes from all walks of life and have no common socio-economic background. Contrary
to media-propagated myths, most of them had not been sexually abused in childhood and
the vast majority of pedophiles are also drawn to adults of the opposite sex (are
heterosexuals).

Only a few belong to the Exclusive Type - the ones who are tempted solely by kids.
Nine-tenths of all pedophiles are male. They are fascinated by preteen females,
teenage males, or (more rarely) both.

Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have pedophiliac
fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it.
Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed to
discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and
mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned (and
criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious.

Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits. They lack
empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions. They are in
denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their transgressions,
claiming that the children were merely being educated for their own good and, anyhow,
derived great pleasure from it.

The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally tends to
blame others (or the world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and
deficiencies. Pedophiles frequently accuse their victims of acting promiscuously, of
"coming on to them", of actively tempting, provoking, and luring (or even
trapping) them.

The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body
language and inter-personal cues. His social communication skills are impaired and
he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding circumstances (for instance,
to the kid's age and maturity).

Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend others
cause the pedophile to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness. Pedophilia is,
in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses children's bodies to masturbate with.
Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers disembodied, anonymous,
masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often nothing
more than erotic photos and screen names.

It is crucial to realize that pedophiles are not enticed by the children themselves,
by their bodies, or by their budding and nubile sexuality (remember Nabokov's
Lolita?). Rather, pedophiles are drawn to what children symbolize, to what
preadolescents stand for and represent.

To the pedophile ...

I. Sex with children is "free" and "daring"

Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the
pedophile's magical sense of omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority of
the state and the edicts of his culture and society, the pedophile experiences an
adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes the
outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.

The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have
consistently shown that pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine,
epidemics) and with major life crises (failure, relocation, infidelity of spouse,
separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the offender's
nearest
and dearest).

It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical
pedophile is depressive and with a borderline personality (low organization and fuzzy
personal boundaries). Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile. The
pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated. He is likely to suffer
from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.

Paradoxically, it is by seemingly losing control in one aspect of his life (sex) that
the pedophile re-acquires a sense of mastery. The same mechanism is at work in the
development of eating disorders. An inhibitory deficit is somehow magically
perceived as omnipotence.

II. Sex with children is corrupt and decadent

The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and projective
identification in his relationships with children. He makes his victims treat him
the way he views himself - or attributes to them traits and behaviors that are truly
his.

The pedophile is aware of society's view of his actions as vile, corrupt, forbidden,
evil, and decadent (especially if the pedophiliac act involves incest). He derives
pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his view
of himself as "bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".

In extreme (mercifully uncommon) cases, the pedophile projects these torturous
feelings and self-perceptions onto his victims. The children defiled and abused by
his sexual attentions thus become "rotten", "bad objects", guilty and punishable.
This leads to sexual sadism, lust rape, and snuff murders.

III. Sex with children is a reenactment of a painful past

Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification of
innocence, genuineness, trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile wishes
to nostalgically recapture.

The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to his
own, repressed and fearful, inner child. Through his victim, the pedophile gains
access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-like second chance
to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make peace
with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an exercise
in wish fulfillment.

IV. Sex with children is a shared psychosis

The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself, devoid
of a separate existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's
submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He frowns on any sign of personal
autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming, and making
false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and from
the rest of society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.

To the pedophile, the child is a "transitional object" - a training ground on which
to exercise his adult relationship skills. The pedophile erroneously feels that the
child will never betray and abandon him, therefore guaranteeing "object constancy".

The pedophile - stealthily but unfailingly - exploits the vulnerabilities in the
psychological makeup of his victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a
fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence mechanisms, phobias, mental health
problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents, siblings,
teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate
(autoplastic neurosis). The kid may come from an abusive family or environment -
which conditioned her or him to expect abuse as inevitable and "normal". In extreme
and rare cases - the victim is a masochist, possessed of an urge to seek
ill-treatment and pain.

The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands
complete obedience from his "partner". He feels entitled to adulation and special
treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs. He
enforces discipline.

The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a shared
psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives, and
apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted. The child is rendered the joint guardian of
a horrible secret.

The pedophile's control is based on ambiguity, unpredictability, fuzziness, and
ambient abuse. His ever-shifting whims exclusively define right versus wrong,
desirable and unwanted, what is to be pursued and what to be avoided. He alone
determines rights and obligations and alters them at will.

The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest
details and behaviors. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of information
and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals.

The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant and
terrified) child. He ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or
instruments of gratification. He seeks to control both situations and people
compulsively.

The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes often.
He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating the
looks, talents, traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child. He is wildly
unrealistic in his expectations - which legitimizes his subsequent abusive conduct.

Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful,
omnipotent, and omniscient. They often lie and confabulate to support these
unfounded claims and to justify their actions. Most pedophiles suffer from cognitive
deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.

In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law - any kind of law. This
grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous
relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities.

V. The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster

Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior". They are physically weaker,
dependent on others for the fulfillment of many of their needs, cognitively and
emotionally immature, and easily manipulated. Their fund of knowledge is limited and
their skills restricted. His relationships with children buttress the pedophile's
twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and omniscience. Compared to his victims,
the pedophile is always the stronger, the wiser, the most skillful and well-informed.

VI. Sex with children guarantees companionship

Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and
companions. Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.

The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child. Sex is
merely one way to communicate his affection and caring. But there are other venues.

To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping by,
writing e-mails, giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on the
kid's behalf", getting into relationships with the preteen's parents, friends,
teachers, and peers, and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at
all times. The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional
decisions for the child.

The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express
wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and
preferences. To the pedophile, "love" means
enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of
being abandoned).

Moreover, no amount of denials, chastising, threats, and even outright hostile
actions convince the erotomaniac that the child not in love with him. He knows
better and will make the world see the
light as well. The child and his guardians are simply unaware of what is good for
the kid. The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and
happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.

Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is convinced
that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally
infatuated with him or her. He interprets everything the child does (or refrains
from doing) as coded messages confessing to and conveying the child's interest in
and eternal devotion to the pedophile and to the "relationship".

Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and suffer
from a host of mood and anxiety disorders. They may also be legitimately involved
with the child (e.g., stepfather, former spouse, teacher, gym instructor, sibling) -
or with his parents (for instance, a former boyfriend, a one night stand,
colleagues or co-workers). They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and
all-pervasive fantasies.

Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims.
They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source of
their mounting frustration. When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some pedophiles
violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.

Pedophilia is to some extent a culture-bound syndrome, defined as it is by the
chronological age of the child involved. Ephebophilia, for instance - the exclusive
sexual infatuation with teenagers - is not considered to be a form of pedophilia (or
even paraphilia).

In some cultures, societies and countries (Afghanistan, for instance) the age of
consent is as low as 12. The marriageable age in Britain until the end of the
nineteenth century was 10. Pedophilia is a common and socially-condoned practice in
certain tribal societies and isolated communities (the Island of Pitcairn).

It would, therefore, be wise to redefine pedophilia as an attraction to or sexual
acts with prepubescent children or with people of the equivalent mental age (e.g.,
retarded) in contravention of social, legal, and culturally accepted practices.

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AUTHOR BIO

Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love -
Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served as a
columnist for Central Europe Review, PopMatters, Bellaonline, and eBookWeb, a United
Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent, and the editor of mental
health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.

Until recently, he served as the Economic Advisor to the Government of Macedonia.

Visit Sam's Web site at http://samvak.tripod.com
Jack Gillen
2005-06-15 03:53:38 UTC
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The Way Of The Kook

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm


TEH WAY OF THE K00K
a.. Never learn from your mistakes.
b.. Always practice your mistakes; you may get them right.
c.. Always pick on those smarter and tougher than you.
d.. Always believe that only you know the TRVTH.
e.. Never allow logic or reason get in the way of a good k00k.
f.. When being overwhelmed by logic and reason: k00ksuit!
g.. If you are going to be wrong, do it at the top of your lungs.
h.. When caught in a lie: LIE!
i.. When in doubt: Order the Crab Won Ton
j.. Plagiarism is your friend. Use it.
k.. Whenever contradicted; morph, start calling people names, and
make false accusations. Include the children of your target in your
allegations, even if they don't have any.
l.. Post numerous blank posts, or posts containing only a message
id.
m.. Post numerous copy&paste web articles from crackerpot websites.
n.. Never forget to call kookologists "k00ks."
o.. If there are several, call them "sockpuppets" too
p.. When all else fails, accuse various and sundry kookologists of
e-mailing viruses to you. This is a sure-fire method of garnering sympathy
and ensuring that the General Public will always see things your way. An
especially effective sub-strategy here is to accuse them of infecting you
with the 'Sasser' worm via e-mail.
q.. Quote notorious scientists or writers - it makes it look as if
they approve the drivel you are writing!
r.. Ignore all traffic signs and feel free to trespass, you don't
have to obey any rules.
s.. Scare your enemies with lawsuits, police escorts and whines.
t.. Always back up your empty (albeit noisy) threats with phony
LARTs, false police reports, and harassing letters to the FBI and other
gubbermint agencies.
u.. Be vigilant in your redundancy. The more you repeat yourself,
the more likely others will believe you!
v.. If you can't find anyone as crazy as yourself to support you in
the flamewars you start with the normal population, create sock puppets and
use anonymous remailers that shamelessly hang on every word you write.
w.. (17-Mar-05) When dealing with law enforcement, remember that it
is they who have the problem, not you. Be sure to inform them of this at
every available opportunity, as they will surely appreciate your
constructive criticism. Be sure to make them aware that YOU KNOW YOUR
RIGHTS! ("The cops like that, when people know their rights. That way they
don't have to read them to you on the way to the station." - George Carlin)
x.. The more your fake personalities adulate you, the more respect
you'll get!
y.. When confronted with a reality that you don't like. Announce
loudly that you are departing, never to return as long as there's an
Internet. Come back in three or four days and claim you were drunk, hacked,
abducted by alience, or forged. Alternately you can just not even mention
your prior departure, and if anyone asks you about it, either ignore them or
respond with something along the lines of "YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!
*PLONK*!" People really know you mean business then.
z.. Always remain clueproof.
aa.. (20-Mar-05) Anyone who does not believe that you are the
reincarnation of [$DIETY_OR_PROPHET] is obviously an infidel lacking in
faith whose soul in in peril of everlasting damnation.
ab.. When responding to one line challenges, post paragraphs of
rants and screed in response.
ac.. Incoherency is not a roadblock to poasting.
ad.. Neither is illiteracy.
ae.. Delusions poasted often enough become fact.
af.. Claim you will destroy <insert newsfroup> for attacking you.
ag.. When spnaked, send cmsg for Fanboi newsfroup(s).
ah.. Find your Lame, Use your Lame, Be your Lame!
ai.. Post Edit when the TRVTH hurts.
aj.. Always sneck the offending newsfroups.
ak.. Always poast pictures of yourself so you can be admired in all
your k00ky glory.
al.. Always accuse others of the very acts you are guilty of.
am.. Post lots of boasts about your high IQ and incredible talents.
an.. (20-Mar-05) If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the
truth. Anybody who fails to understand this is engaged in a deliberate
campaign of misinformation and character assassination.
ao.. Always <plonk> somebody just before replying the plonkee!
ap.. The k00k considers itself the most intelligent person in any
conversation, possibly on the planet. Other people are benhighted and
ignorant, and have been waiting their whole lives for the k00k to rescue
them from intellectual darkness.
aq.. Write a self-published book and claim it a success. Bonus
points for comparing it to "Mein Kampf" and/or the Bible.
ar.. Declare yourself equal to a deity of your choice.
as.. Claim that you've come from other planets.
at.. Claim thousands of past lives.
au.. Frothing complaints carry far more weight when you send them
from "legal@" some domain.
av.. Nothing strikes terror into the hearts of your detractors more
than telling them that you're archiving their messages for possible use in
the future.
aw.. Never forget that everyone else posting to Usenet is a paid
disinformation agent looking to discredit you.
ax.. Usenet is governed by US law. If a poster in Romania killfiles
you, he's obviously violating your 1st Amendment rights and can be sued.
ay.. Every news admin in the world hangs out in NANAU, and they're
just dying to nuke the account of that meanyhead who just called you
"fucknozzle". Drop 'em a line - that's what they're there for, after all.
az.. AUK will be closed down. Just you wait and see.
ba.. They've nuked hundreds of accounts in the name of free speech
and *yours* will be next.
bb.. The k00k will, without any trace of irony, lie, manipulate,
impersonate, censor, and declare themselves powerful in ways ranging from
the ability to have an account shut down to being God Herself, in order to
convince people that they are not liars, manipulators, censors, or insane.
bc.. Abuse women while telling how many hundreds you've loved.
Nevermind that you're one ugly motherfucker and that there were 30,000
femininas that thought you were a scumbag with bad teeth.
bd.. Remember that your ko0ky klaims are 'facts', and that 'facts'
do not require proof.
be.. Do not neglect to poast your responses to forums that the
originator doesn't read. This will make the people in that forum very
impressed with how you tear him to shreds without him being able to respond.
They like it even better if you are off-topic for that forum.
bf.. Keep in mind that lack of evidence supporting your konspiracy
theory actually _is_ evidence, of how effective the konspiracy is in hiding.
bg.. Any problems with your poasts are the fault of the
konspirators, who are trying to stop you from preventing the extinction of
humanity.
bh.. Konspiracies that are able to subvert whole governments are
always unable to silence konspiracy ko0ks.
bi.. The entire United States government is willing to spend
millions of dollars for the sole purpose if harassing you.
bj.. Hollywood is making movies based on your personal life.
bk.. Do not consult psychiatrists or other mental health
professionals. They are part of the konspiracy, and will sedate you and lock
you away and keep you drugged if you tell them the truth.
bl.. Numerology and Astrology are respectable sciences and are
useful for proving your case.
bm.. Everyone is Tim Hill, or David Green, or...
bn.. There is a fine line between trolling and kookery. Find that
line and cross it repeatedly. When you are killfiled and/or LARTed for
net.abuse as a result, claim victory. If you lose multiple accounts, this
merely proves that you are indeed a world-class troll, with a black-belt in
manipulation.
bo.. If you respond to every post someone else makes, they're
obsessed. If they respond to less than 1% of your posts, they're even more
obsessed.
bp.. Publishing people's real names, addresses, and phone numbers
when there's no other way for you to come out of a flamewar with any dignity
is cool, and proves that you are a master of secret internet information
stores, and absolutely not to be fucked with.
bq.. Everyone is out to get you. You can put a stop to this by
telling everyone that they're out to get you at every available opportunity.
br.. You are the only sane one.
bs.. Those that give you a hard time about morally bankrupt things
you yourself admit to are just persecutioners of the new inquisition.
bt.. Yelling in all caps and cursing at your detractors is debate.
Your detractors laughing at you with sarcastic remarks is obvious anger and
jealousy.
bu.. If doing something results in the loss of your account, legal
hassles, or blunt trauma injury, do it again. It always works better the
second time.
bv.. Asterisks, lots and lots of Asterisks.
bw.. Poking holes in kookscreed is stalking, and is a felony.
bx.. K00ks LOVE to "connect the dots". They are, of course, dots
that only the k00k can see.
by.. "They laughed at Einstein, too!"

...with thanks to Aratzio, Dr. Flonkenstein, Dan Baldwin, Cujo, CJ
Osterwald, Jade, Bookman, and John Henry, of AUK; Insurgent.Org for hosting,
and LowGenius Web Design for page design. Meow. Original thread at
http://tinyurl.com/3fsho - some posts may not appear due to x-no-archive
headers. The spelling mistakes are intentional, dolt.



"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
A***@aol.com
2005-06-15 10:34:16 UTC
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Hey!!! I knew of a guy by the name of Sam Vaknin once....

He got his doctorate from a storefront somewhere in Southern
California.....

And then he launched into a career of providing pseudoscientific
justification for internet nutcases.....

I wonder if this is the same guy?
samvaknin
2005-06-16 11:54:09 UTC
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Hi,

You may find these of interest:

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal73.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq19.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal21.html

Take care.

Sam (Vaknin)
jeff
2005-06-16 12:20:05 UTC
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cool thanks for explaining Michael Jackson
Michael Siglow
2005-06-16 13:27:13 UTC
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Post by samvaknin
Hi,
<snip>
Post by samvaknin
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq19.html
In the first question, one would think you are analyzing you (im)famous
client, CB.
Post by samvaknin
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal21.html
And you self analysis would suggest that is the cause for CB's infatuation
with you.
Post by samvaknin
Take care.
Likewise.
Post by samvaknin
Sam (Vaknin)
Siglow
Catherine
2005-06-18 02:38:16 UTC
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What I find "of interest" is all the insults being hurled at someone actually
recognized as an authority in a number of fields on the merits by people who have
stood by for you all these years, Shitlip - someone who gets his psychological
insights from his sadistic exploitations of his wife's textbooks - from her two-year
nursing degree psychology course.

I took one of those at Cerritos JC while I was still in high school at 15 or 16 - got
an "A", too.

Sociopath, liar and SKEEBUBB leader. For another person who "doesn't care", you and
I have been going back-and-forth now for more than four years - five, if one adds in
Keays who certainly withheld pertinent information a reasonable person would have
found so.

Still communicate with Schoenbach and Dittrich, or was Kaufman lying?

-- Catherine
Post by Michael Siglow
Post by samvaknin
Hi,
<snip>
Post by samvaknin
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq19.html
In the first question, one would think you are analyzing you (im)famous
client, CB.
Post by samvaknin
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal21.html
And you self analysis would suggest that is the cause for CB's infatuation
with you.
Post by samvaknin
Take care.
Likewise.
Post by samvaknin
Sam (Vaknin)
Siglow
Jack Gillen
2005-06-18 03:56:53 UTC
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Post by Catherine
What I find "of interest" is all the insults being hurled at someone actually
recognized as an authority in a number of fields on the merits
Catherine, you blithering toon, a diploma mill "degree" from Bob's Pacific
Western Apparel Emporium and Mail Order Kolledge Of Knowledge does not
confer recognition "as an authority in a number of fields on the merits,"
you pathetic ko0k.
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
Colonel Jake
2005-06-18 08:45:41 UTC
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Post by Jack Gillen
Post by Catherine
What I find "of interest" is all the insults being hurled at someone actually
recognized as an authority in a number of fields on the merits
Catherine, you blithering toon, a diploma mill "degree" from Bob's Pacific
Western Apparel Emporium and Mail Order Kolledge Of Knowledge does not
confer recognition "as an authority in a number of fields on the merits,"
you pathetic ko0k.
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
And who the fuck are you?,
Jack'n'off Gillen?, I bet you was one of them motherfuckers when you was a
kid marching in your fucking school band?, where your teacher told you that
D&B Corps. sucks so you believed him and never fucking had anything to do
with D&B Corps. until Catherine Blurped it out like she did last week?,
until a couple of years ago...

To me you fucking Jack'n'off Gillen boy?, you's just another dead fucking
"rookie," with a mouth full of shit, so if you have anything to say?, then
spit out what you're chewing on and quit fucking mumbling you goddamn dead
fucking rookie motherfucker, cause there isnt anybody here who can
underfuckingstand what it is you're trying to spew out your fucking molded
soiled pissed and shitted all the fuck over toilet mouth, Jack'n'off
Gillen...

So tell us Jack'n'off Gillen?, since you're so fucking against The Roots of
Pedophilia?, tell us who and if, how many times your Daddy, Uncle or Brother
taught you how to stroke yer meat when you was in the first grade, or?,
maybe it was your best friend across the geto or across the hall in your
project home?, oh I get it?, your daddy died in the war, so your brother
taught you how to stroke that tool of yours better than the fucking
organ-grinding monkey on the goddamn streets...

What a fucking dead motherfucking rookie you are, you know Jack'n'off
Gillen?, when you march with your men friends?, dont forget to use that new
suppository they got out now that'll keep you protected from your worse
nightmare?, no no no no, not Rolaids?, but NoAIDS, just stick it up yer ass
and off you can go...

Cya, sure in the hell wouldnt want to Bya...

HaHaHa

VK all the way

Colonel Jake


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jeff
2005-06-18 04:56:02 UTC
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Post by Catherine
Sociopath, liar and SKEEBUBB leader.
great a new term that means nothing
Jack Gillen
2005-06-18 05:30:31 UTC
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Post by jeff
Post by Catherine
Sociopath, liar and SKEEBUBB leader.
great a new term that means nothing
Yeah, sometimes I think Catherine just assumes the rest of us can hear the
voices inside her head that tell her what these weird things mean.....
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
Catherine
2005-06-18 15:06:38 UTC
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Are these more examples of "not caring" you two? Not caring about drum & bugle corps
and anything decent and genuine...

Thanks <not> for staying on-topic and for supporting Dr. Vaknin's thesis.
Post by Jack Gillen
Post by jeff
Post by Catherine
Sociopath, liar and SKEEBUBB leader.
great a new term that means nothing
But you understand the "sociopath" and "liar" - even though you choose to ignore
them.

As for "EBBUB" and its derivatives, Mike "Sailor" Kolle used to fight me for
authorship. He and Schoenbach also used to brag at rehearsals about studying
brainwashing texts - such as those that Mr. Nevermann now publicly finds "wacky".
More unfair standards, unfairly applied...

Lying frauds.

-- Catherine
Post by Jack Gillen
Yeah, sometimes I think Catherine just assumes the rest of us can hear the
voices inside her head that tell her what these weird things mean.....
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
Jack Gillen
2005-06-19 02:38:14 UTC
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Post by Catherine
Are these more examples of "not caring" you two? Not caring about drum & bugle corps
and anything decent and genuine...
Thanks <not> for staying on-topic and for supporting Dr. Vaknin's thesis.
Oh, no, thank you, for proving, yet again, that you are completely crazy.
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
jeff
2005-06-19 04:16:06 UTC
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lying fraud? have proof to back that up?

oh damn did i ask that again?
Post by Catherine
Are these more examples of "not caring" you two? Not caring about drum & bugle corps
and anything decent and genuine...
Thanks <not> for staying on-topic and for supporting Dr. Vaknin's thesis.
Post by Jack Gillen
Post by jeff
Post by Catherine
Sociopath, liar and SKEEBUBB leader.
great a new term that means nothing
But you understand the "sociopath" and "liar" - even though you choose to ignore
them.
As for "EBBUB" and its derivatives, Mike "Sailor" Kolle used to fight me for
authorship. He and Schoenbach also used to brag at rehearsals about studying
brainwashing texts - such as those that Mr. Nevermann now publicly finds "wacky".
More unfair standards, unfairly applied...
Lying frauds.
-- Catherine
Post by Jack Gillen
Yeah, sometimes I think Catherine just assumes the rest of us can hear the
voices inside her head that tell her what these weird things mean.....
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
Jack Gillen
2005-06-19 04:42:58 UTC
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Post by jeff
lying fraud? have proof to back that up?
oh damn did i ask that again?
From "The Way Of The Kook" at:

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm


"Remember that your ko0ky klaims are 'facts', and that 'facts'
do not require proof."
--
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
Jack Gillen
2005-06-17 06:16:14 UTC
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Post by samvaknin
Hi,
Back atcha.
You may find this of interest:

The Way Of The Kook

http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm


It wasn't written specifically about Catherine...or was it?.....
Post by samvaknin
Take care.
Will do.
Post by samvaknin
Sam (Vaknin)
Jack

---
"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis
B***@aol.com
2005-06-17 07:47:29 UTC
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Hi,
You may find these of interest:
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/journal73.html
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/faq19.html
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/journal21.html

Take care.

Sam (Vaknin)
********************************************************

I found several items of interest:

( from your bio )
Education

Graduated a few semesters in the Technion ? Israel Institute of
Technology, Haifa.
Ph.D. in Philosophy (major: Philosophy of Physics) ? Pacific Western
University, California, USA.
Graduate of numerous courses in Finance Theory and International
Trading.
Certified E-Commerce Concepts Analyst by Brainbench.
Certified in Psychological Counselling Techniques by Brainbench.
Certified Financial Analyst by Brainbench.
Full proficiency in Hebrew and in English.

#1, The term " graduated a few semesters" is new to me, exactly what
does that mean ?
#2 You list a Ph.D. but no Masters etc. ? A bit confusing.

#3 You list Pacific Western University, California, USA for your Ph.D.
When one goes to their website, this is what is found regarding who
their Ph.D's are for:

"A good candidate for a Doctorate degree would be someone who needs the
qualification to facilitate foreign travel, obtaining a work visa,
publish a book or professional articles, join professional associations
or to elevate his or her standing in professional circles, particularly
in the consulting field."


#4 When you check the requirements for earning a Doctorate there, this
is what is listed:

"The Doctorate is earned by candidates who complete advanced level
coursework and demonstrate theoretical competence leading to a
dissertation which the faculty recognizes as a contribution to the
literature of the discipline.

A minimum of 12 out of 14 courses (listed below) plus a dissertation
must be earned under supervision of Pacific Western University faculty
after enrollment."

Question #5: Which of the 12 courses had anything to do with the
subject of this thread ?


Then later you list:

In a legal precedent in 1995 ? studied in business schools and law
faculties across Israel ? was tried for his role in an attempted
takeover of Israel's Agriculture Bank.

Question #6: WHAT, was the legal precedent ?


And THIS:

Was interned in the State School of Prison Wardens.

Question #7: Interned does mean "in prison" ?

Question #8 State School of Prison Wardens ? did you go to school to
be a prison warden, or is this all a nice way of selling a brass band
to the town of River City ?

Managed the Central School Library, wrote, published and lectured on
various occasions.

Question # 9: Is this the same school as listed above ?

Economic Advisor to the Government of the Republic of Macedonia and to
the Ministry of Finance.

Question # 10; Really ?

Among many other things you list is this:

Editor of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the Verbal and
Emotional Abuse, and the Spousal (Domestic) Abuse and Violence topics
on Suite 101 and Bellaonline.

You say editor, not author.

Main Entry: ed?i?tor
Pronunciation: 'e-d&-t&r
Function: noun
Date: 1649
1 : someone who edits especially as an occupation
2 : a device used in editing motion-picture film or magnetic tape

Final question:

Since you have a Ph.D. in Philosophy (major: Philosophy of Physics) ?
Pacific Western University, California, USA. which has nothing to do
with the subject of this thread and you list yourself as the editor and
not the author of the publications, could it be that you have managed
to find a group of people to which you can sell to, thus making a
profit off of the people in need ?

Just wondering ?
Colonel Jake
2005-06-17 08:59:04 UTC
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Post by B***@aol.com
Hi,
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/journal73.html
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/faq19.html
http://malignantselflove.tripo?d.com/journal21.html
Take care.
Sam (Vaknin)
********************************************************
( from your bio )
Education
Graduated a few semesters in the Technion ? Israel Institute of
Technology, Haifa.
Ph.D. in Philosophy (major: Philosophy of Physics) ? Pacific Western
University, California, USA.
Graduate of numerous courses in Finance Theory and International
Trading.
Certified E-Commerce Concepts Analyst by Brainbench.
Certified in Psychological Counselling Techniques by Brainbench.
Certified Financial Analyst by Brainbench.
Full proficiency in Hebrew and in English.
#1, The term " graduated a few semesters" is new to me, exactly what
does that mean ?
#2 You list a Ph.D. but no Masters etc. ? A bit confusing.
#3 You list Pacific Western University, California, USA for your Ph.D.
When one goes to their website, this is what is found regarding who
"A good candidate for a Doctorate degree would be someone who needs the
qualification to facilitate foreign travel, obtaining a work visa,
publish a book or professional articles, join professional associations
or to elevate his or her standing in professional circles, particularly
in the consulting field."
#4 When you check the requirements for earning a Doctorate there, this
"The Doctorate is earned by candidates who complete advanced level
coursework and demonstrate theoretical competence leading to a
dissertation which the faculty recognizes as a contribution to the
literature of the discipline.
A minimum of 12 out of 14 courses (listed below) plus a dissertation
must be earned under supervision of Pacific Western University faculty
after enrollment."
Question #5: Which of the 12 courses had anything to do with the
subject of this thread ?
In a legal precedent in 1995 ? studied in business schools and law
faculties across Israel ? was tried for his role in an attempted
takeover of Israel's Agriculture Bank.
Question #6: WHAT, was the legal precedent ?
Was interned in the State School of Prison Wardens.
Question #7: Interned does mean "in prison" ?
Question #8 State School of Prison Wardens ? did you go to school to
be a prison warden, or is this all a nice way of selling a brass band
to the town of River City ?
Managed the Central School Library, wrote, published and lectured on
various occasions.
Question # 9: Is this the same school as listed above ?
Economic Advisor to the Government of the Republic of Macedonia and to
the Ministry of Finance.
Question # 10; Really ?
Editor of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the Verbal and
Emotional Abuse, and the Spousal (Domestic) Abuse and Violence topics
on Suite 101 and Bellaonline.
You say editor, not author.
Main Entry: ed?i?tor
Pronunciation: 'e-d&-t&r
Function: noun
Date: 1649
1 : someone who edits especially as an occupation
2 : a device used in editing motion-picture film or magnetic tape
Since you have a Ph.D. in Philosophy (major: Philosophy of Physics) ?
Pacific Western University, California, USA. which has nothing to do
with the subject of this thread and you list yourself as the editor and
not the author of the publications, could it be that you have managed
to find a group of people to which you can sell to, thus making a
profit off of the people in need ?
Just wondering ?
Dont you get it TOMike?,
He got his Ph.D. from Hamilton University, it only costed him $2,000.00 and
some chump change, all he had to do is write a 2,000 word Thesis about why
he wants to become a Ph.D. in the study of "Philosophy of Physics..."

I can do that one without the Ph.D., " Œ + œ + Ÿ = 1œ = Ÿ + œ + Œ," and I
didnt even have to say a word, but if I was going to say it?, it would sound
like this?, "now ah-so yo-yo, you add all of these up and you get 1Å“ past
your ass even backwards pass the mass until you fruck it out of class, but
whatever you do?, dont wrink it from a glass..."

HaHaHa

VK all the way

Colonel Jake
Jim Blansett
2005-06-17 10:37:03 UTC
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On 17 Jun 2005 00:47:29 -0700, ***@aol.com wrote:

<snip>
Post by B***@aol.com
#2 You list a Ph.D. but no Masters etc. ? A bit confusing.
While a Masters is generally considered a precursor to a Ph.D., I
don't believe it is a pre-requisite at most institutions of higher
learning. This is not to say I consider Pacific Western University to
be one of these, any more than I consider Alabama a progressive state.
A***@aol.com
2005-06-17 11:15:29 UTC
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I was chuckling about this whole thread yesterday as I was digging out
the back of my office closet. I came across a Ph.D. that I obtained
from an "institution" called Chadwick University.

It cost me $80 - including the matting and framing.

I'm wondering if Chadwick is a sister college to Pacific Western.

Andy
samvaknin
2005-06-17 12:15:28 UTC
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Thank you for your kind words.

You can learn more about me here:

(Click on the addresses below or copy the address and paste it in the
browser window)

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/indexqa.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/cv.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/archive01.html (scroll down to
section
titled "Sam Vaknin, NPD")

http://www.suite101.com/articles.cfm/npd (my journal)

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal1.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/sipurim.html (short fiction)

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/contents.html (poetry)

Take care.

Sam
Pinku-Sensei
2005-06-17 06:53:48 UTC
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Catherine wrote:

(Christmas Cake forgot to send this post to newsgroups where the
subject is on-topic. Error corrected and follow-ups set--Stinku)
Post by Catherine
This letter constitutes a permission to reprint or mirror any and all of the
materials mentioned or linked to herein subject to appropriate credit and linkback.
Every article published MUST include the author bio, including the link to the
author's Web site (at the bottom of this message).
===============================================================
The Roots of Pedophilia
By Sam Vaknin
Author of "Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited"
Michael Jackson was just found innocent on all ten charges of child molestation by a
jury. But what was he actually charged with? What is pedophilia?
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and act on their sexual fantasies.
It is a startling fact that the etiology of this paraphilia is unknown. Pedophiles
comes from all walks of life and have no common socio-economic background. Contrary
to media-propagated myths, most of them had not been sexually abused in childhood and
the vast majority of pedophiles are also drawn to adults of the opposite sex (are
heterosexuals).
Only a few belong to the Exclusive Type - the ones who are tempted solely by kids.
Nine-tenths of all pedophiles are male. They are fascinated by preteen females,
teenage males, or (more rarely) both.
Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have pedophiliac
fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it.
Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed to
discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and
mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned (and
criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious.
Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits. They lack
empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions. They are in
denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their transgressions,
claiming that the children were merely being educated for their own good and, anyhow,
derived great pleasure from it.
The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally tends to
blame others (or the world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and
deficiencies. Pedophiles frequently accuse their victims of acting promiscuously, of
"coming on to them", of actively tempting, provoking, and luring (or even
trapping) them.
The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body
language and inter-personal cues. His social communication skills are impaired and
he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding circumstances (for instance,
to the kid's age and maturity).
Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend others
cause the pedophile to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness. Pedophilia is,
in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses children's bodies to masturbate with.
Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers disembodied, anonymous,
masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often nothing
more than erotic photos and screen names.
It is crucial to realize that pedophiles are not enticed by the children themselves,
by their bodies, or by their budding and nubile sexuality (remember Nabokov's
Lolita?). Rather, pedophiles are drawn to what children symbolize, to what
preadolescents stand for and represent.
To the pedophile ...
I. Sex with children is "free" and "daring"
Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the
pedophile's magical sense of omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority of
the state and the edicts of his culture and society, the pedophile experiences an
adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes the
outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.
The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have
consistently shown that pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine,
epidemics) and with major life crises (failure, relocation, infidelity of spouse,
separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the offender's
nearest
and dearest).
It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical
pedophile is depressive and with a borderline personality (low organization and fuzzy
personal boundaries). Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile. The
pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated. He is likely to suffer
from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.
Paradoxically, it is by seemingly losing control in one aspect of his life (sex) that
the pedophile re-acquires a sense of mastery. The same mechanism is at work in the
development of eating disorders. An inhibitory deficit is somehow magically
perceived as omnipotence.
II. Sex with children is corrupt and decadent
The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and projective
identification in his relationships with children. He makes his victims treat him
the way he views himself - or attributes to them traits and behaviors that are truly
his.
The pedophile is aware of society's view of his actions as vile, corrupt, forbidden,
evil, and decadent (especially if the pedophiliac act involves incest). He derives
pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his view
of himself as "bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".
In extreme (mercifully uncommon) cases, the pedophile projects these torturous
feelings and self-perceptions onto his victims. The children defiled and abused by
his sexual attentions thus become "rotten", "bad objects", guilty and punishable.
This leads to sexual sadism, lust rape, and snuff murders.
III. Sex with children is a reenactment of a painful past
Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification of
innocence, genuineness, trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile wishes
to nostalgically recapture.
The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to his
own, repressed and fearful, inner child. Through his victim, the pedophile gains
access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-like second chance
to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make peace
with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an exercise
in wish fulfillment.
IV. Sex with children is a shared psychosis
The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself, devoid
of a separate existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's
submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He frowns on any sign of personal
autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming, and making
false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and from
the rest of society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.
To the pedophile, the child is a "transitional object" - a training ground on which
to exercise his adult relationship skills. The pedophile erroneously feels that the
child will never betray and abandon him, therefore guaranteeing "object constancy".
The pedophile - stealthily but unfailingly - exploits the vulnerabilities in the
psychological makeup of his victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a
fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence mechanisms, phobias, mental health
problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents, siblings,
teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate
(autoplastic neurosis). The kid may come from an abusive family or environment -
which conditioned her or him to expect abuse as inevitable and "normal". In extreme
and rare cases - the victim is a masochist, possessed of an urge to seek
ill-treatment and pain.
The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands
complete obedience from his "partner". He feels entitled to adulation and special
treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs. He
enforces discipline.
The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a shared
psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives, and
apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted. The child is rendered the joint guardian of
a horrible secret.
The pedophile's control is based on ambiguity, unpredictability, fuzziness, and
ambient abuse. His ever-shifting whims exclusively define right versus wrong,
desirable and unwanted, what is to be pursued and what to be avoided. He alone
determines rights and obligations and alters them at will.
The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest
details and behaviors. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of information
and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals.
The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant and
terrified) child. He ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or
instruments of gratification. He seeks to control both situations and people
compulsively.
The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes often.
He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating the
looks, talents, traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child. He is wildly
unrealistic in his expectations - which legitimizes his subsequent abusive conduct.
Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful,
omnipotent, and omniscient. They often lie and confabulate to support these
unfounded claims and to justify their actions. Most pedophiles suffer from cognitive
deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.
In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law - any kind of law. This
grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous
relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities.
V. The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster
Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior". They are physically weaker,
dependent on others for the fulfillment of many of their needs, cognitively and
emotionally immature, and easily manipulated. Their fund of knowledge is limited and
their skills restricted. His relationships with children buttress the pedophile's
twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and omniscience. Compared to his victims,
the pedophile is always the stronger, the wiser, the most skillful and well-informed.
VI. Sex with children guarantees companionship
Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and
companions. Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.
The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child. Sex is
merely one way to communicate his affection and caring. But there are other venues.
To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping by,
writing e-mails, giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on the
kid's behalf", getting into relationships with the preteen's parents, friends,
teachers, and peers, and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at
all times. The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional
decisions for the child.
The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express
wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and
preferences. To the pedophile, "love" means
enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of
being abandoned).
Moreover, no amount of denials, chastising, threats, and even outright hostile
actions convince the erotomaniac that the child not in love with him. He knows
better and will make the world see the
light as well. The child and his guardians are simply unaware of what is good for
the kid. The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and
happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.
Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is convinced
that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally
infatuated with him or her. He interprets everything the child does (or refrains
from doing) as coded messages confessing to and conveying the child's interest in
and eternal devotion to the pedophile and to the "relationship".
Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and suffer
from a host of mood and anxiety disorders. They may also be legitimately involved
with the child (e.g., stepfather, former spouse, teacher, gym instructor, sibling) -
or with his parents (for instance, a former boyfriend, a one night stand,
colleagues or co-workers). They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and
all-pervasive fantasies.
Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims.
They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source of
their mounting frustration. When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some pedophiles
violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.
Pedophilia is to some extent a culture-bound syndrome, defined as it is by the
chronological age of the child involved. Ephebophilia, for instance - the exclusive
sexual infatuation with teenagers - is not considered to be a form of pedophilia (or
even paraphilia).
In some cultures, societies and countries (Afghanistan, for instance) the age of
consent is as low as 12. The marriageable age in Britain until the end of the
nineteenth century was 10. Pedophilia is a common and socially-condoned practice in
certain tribal societies and isolated communities (the Island of Pitcairn).
It would, therefore, be wise to redefine pedophilia as an attraction to or sexual
acts with prepubescent children or with people of the equivalent mental age (e.g.,
retarded) in contravention of social, legal, and culturally accepted practices.
=============================================
AUTHOR BIO
Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love -
Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served as a
columnist for Central Europe Review, PopMatters, Bellaonline, and eBookWeb, a United
Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent, and the editor of mental
health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.
Until recently, he served as the Economic Advisor to the Government of Macedonia.
Visit Sam's Web site at http://samvak.tripod.com
Catherine
2005-06-18 02:22:10 UTC
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Post by Pinku-Sensei
(Christmas Cake forgot to send this post to newsgroups where the
subject is on-topic. Error corrected and follow-ups set--Stinku)
Liar.

Still no comment on your 28+ years of knowing Harvey Berish and how you were so lied
to, eh Vince? Or perhaps you have been "in service" all that time? I'll let you
define - or not - the extent of your interactions...

-- Catherine
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
This letter constitutes a permission to reprint or mirror any and all of the
materials mentioned or linked to herein subject to appropriate credit and linkback.
Every article published MUST include the author bio, including the link to the
author's Web site (at the bottom of this message).
===============================================================
The Roots of Pedophilia
By Sam Vaknin
Author of "Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited"
Michael Jackson was just found innocent on all ten charges of child molestation by a
jury. But what was he actually charged with? What is pedophilia?
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and act on their sexual fantasies.
It is a startling fact that the etiology of this paraphilia is unknown.
Pedophiles
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
comes from all walks of life and have no common socio-economic background.
Contrary
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to media-propagated myths, most of them had not been sexually abused in childhood and
the vast majority of pedophiles are also drawn to adults of the opposite sex (are
heterosexuals).
Only a few belong to the Exclusive Type - the ones who are tempted solely by kids.
Nine-tenths of all pedophiles are male. They are fascinated by preteen females,
teenage males, or (more rarely) both.
Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have pedophiliac
fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it.
Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed to
discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and
mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned (and
criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious.
Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits. They lack
empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions. They are in
denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their transgressions,
claiming that the children were merely being educated for their own good and, anyhow,
derived great pleasure from it.
The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally tends to
blame others (or the world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and
deficiencies. Pedophiles frequently accuse their victims of acting promiscuously, of
"coming on to them", of actively tempting, provoking, and luring (or even
trapping) them.
The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body
language and inter-personal cues. His social communication skills are impaired and
he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding circumstances (for instance,
to the kid's age and maturity).
Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend others
cause the pedophile to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness. Pedophilia is,
in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses children's bodies to masturbate with.
Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers disembodied, anonymous,
masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often nothing
more than erotic photos and screen names.
It is crucial to realize that pedophiles are not enticed by the children themselves,
by their bodies, or by their budding and nubile sexuality (remember Nabokov's
Lolita?). Rather, pedophiles are drawn to what children symbolize, to what
preadolescents stand for and represent.
To the pedophile ...
I. Sex with children is "free" and "daring"
Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the
pedophile's magical sense of omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority of
the state and the edicts of his culture and society, the pedophile experiences an
adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes the
outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.
The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have
consistently shown that pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine,
epidemics) and with major life crises (failure, relocation, infidelity of spouse,
separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the offender's
nearest
and dearest).
It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical
pedophile is depressive and with a borderline personality (low organization and fuzzy
personal boundaries). Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile. The
pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated. He is likely to suffer
from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.
Paradoxically, it is by seemingly losing control in one aspect of his life (sex) that
the pedophile re-acquires a sense of mastery. The same mechanism is at work in the
development of eating disorders. An inhibitory deficit is somehow magically
perceived as omnipotence.
II. Sex with children is corrupt and decadent
The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and projective
identification in his relationships with children. He makes his victims treat him
the way he views himself - or attributes to them traits and behaviors that are truly
his.
The pedophile is aware of society's view of his actions as vile, corrupt, forbidden,
evil, and decadent (especially if the pedophiliac act involves incest). He derives
pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his view
of himself as "bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".
In extreme (mercifully uncommon) cases, the pedophile projects these torturous
feelings and self-perceptions onto his victims. The children defiled and abused by
his sexual attentions thus become "rotten", "bad objects", guilty and punishable.
This leads to sexual sadism, lust rape, and snuff murders.
III. Sex with children is a reenactment of a painful past
Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification of
innocence, genuineness, trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile wishes
to nostalgically recapture.
The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to his
own, repressed and fearful, inner child. Through his victim, the pedophile gains
access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-like second chance
to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make peace
with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an exercise
in wish fulfillment.
IV. Sex with children is a shared psychosis
The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself, devoid
of a separate existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's
submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He frowns on any sign of personal
autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming, and making
false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and from
the rest of society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.
To the pedophile, the child is a "transitional object" - a training ground on which
to exercise his adult relationship skills. The pedophile erroneously feels that the
child will never betray and abandon him, therefore guaranteeing "object constancy".
The pedophile - stealthily but unfailingly - exploits the vulnerabilities in the
psychological makeup of his victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a
fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence mechanisms, phobias, mental health
problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents, siblings,
teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate
(autoplastic neurosis). The kid may come from an abusive family or environment -
which conditioned her or him to expect abuse as inevitable and "normal". In extreme
and rare cases - the victim is a masochist, possessed of an urge to seek
ill-treatment and pain.
The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands
complete obedience from his "partner". He feels entitled to adulation and special
treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs. He
enforces discipline.
The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a shared
psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives, and
apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted. The child is rendered the joint guardian of
a horrible secret.
The pedophile's control is based on ambiguity, unpredictability, fuzziness, and
ambient abuse. His ever-shifting whims exclusively define right versus wrong,
desirable and unwanted, what is to be pursued and what to be avoided. He alone
determines rights and obligations and alters them at will.
The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest
details and behaviors. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of information
and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals.
The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant and
terrified) child. He ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or
instruments of gratification. He seeks to control both situations and people
compulsively.
The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes often.
He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating the
looks, talents, traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child. He is wildly
unrealistic in his expectations - which legitimizes his subsequent abusive conduct.
Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful,
omnipotent, and omniscient. They often lie and confabulate to support these
unfounded claims and to justify their actions. Most pedophiles suffer from cognitive
deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.
In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law - any kind of law. This
grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous
relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities.
V. The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster
Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior". They are physically weaker,
dependent on others for the fulfillment of many of their needs, cognitively and
emotionally immature, and easily manipulated. Their fund of knowledge is limited and
their skills restricted. His relationships with children buttress the pedophile's
twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and omniscience. Compared to his victims,
the pedophile is always the stronger, the wiser, the most skillful and well-informed.
VI. Sex with children guarantees companionship
Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and
companions. Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.
The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child. Sex is
merely one way to communicate his affection and caring. But there are other venues.
To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping by,
writing e-mails, giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on the
kid's behalf", getting into relationships with the preteen's parents, friends,
teachers, and peers, and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at
all times. The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional
decisions for the child.
The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express
wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and
preferences. To the pedophile, "love" means
enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of
being abandoned).
Moreover, no amount of denials, chastising, threats, and even outright hostile
actions convince the erotomaniac that the child not in love with him. He knows
better and will make the world see the
light as well. The child and his guardians are simply unaware of what is good for
the kid. The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and
happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.
Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is convinced
that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally
infatuated with him or her. He interprets everything the child does (or refrains
from doing) as coded messages confessing to and conveying the child's interest in
and eternal devotion to the pedophile and to the "relationship".
Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and suffer
from a host of mood and anxiety disorders. They may also be legitimately involved
with the child (e.g., stepfather, former spouse, teacher, gym instructor, sibling) -
or with his parents (for instance, a former boyfriend, a one night stand,
colleagues or co-workers). They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and
all-pervasive fantasies.
Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims.
They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source of
their mounting frustration. When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some pedophiles
violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.
Pedophilia is to some extent a culture-bound syndrome, defined as it is by the
chronological age of the child involved. Ephebophilia, for instance - the exclusive
sexual infatuation with teenagers - is not considered to be a form of pedophilia (or
even paraphilia).
In some cultures, societies and countries (Afghanistan, for instance) the age of
consent is as low as 12. The marriageable age in Britain until the end of the
nineteenth century was 10. Pedophilia is a common and socially-condoned practice in
certain tribal societies and isolated communities (the Island of Pitcairn).
It would, therefore, be wise to redefine pedophilia as an attraction to or sexual
acts with prepubescent children or with people of the equivalent mental age (e.g.,
retarded) in contravention of social, legal, and culturally accepted practices.
=============================================
AUTHOR BIO
Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love -
Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served as a
columnist for Central Europe Review, PopMatters, Bellaonline, and eBookWeb, a United
Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent, and the editor of mental
health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.
Until recently, he served as the Economic Advisor to the Government of Macedonia.
Visit Sam's Web site at http://samvak.tripod.com
Pinku-Sensei
2005-06-25 20:37:20 UTC
Permalink
Here is a fourth test of the Kooksign Koncentration Index (KKI), in
which I count the number of kooksigns divided by the number of original

words by the poster I'm examining. In this post, I'm examining
Catherine Burr, someone I've presented before to AUK, but who has not
been recognized for kookiness by AUK. Let's see if she achieves the
KKI of ~0.150 averaged by notorious kooks David Tholen, Steve Young,
and Brad Jesness.
Post by Catherine
Post by Pinku-Sensei
(Christmas Cake forgot to send this post to newsgroups where the
subject is on-topic. Error corrected and follow-ups set--Stinku)
While group-snecking may not be considered a kooksign, certain kinds of
group-snecking look suspicious. In this case, Madame Burr snecked two
groups that where the post was on-topic from her reply (Sam Vaknin's
post was about Michael Jackson, so it was on-topic for
alt.music.michael-jackson, and exposure of pedophiles on the net is
always on-topic for alt.usenet.kooks). She also replied to a poster
(me) while snecking his current home group. Therefore, I'm scoring
these as kooksigns 1 and 2.
Post by Catherine
Liar.
3. Stereotypical lame by this poster.
4. Response that appears to have nothing to do with the passage being
responded to. Previous post was sent to groups where subject was
on-topic and follow-ups were set to those groups, so asserting that the
statement was a lie is a claim contrary to fact.
5. Demonstration of projection--Catherine is not considered to be
truthful by the majority of people who respond to her on
rec.arts.marching.drumcorps (RAMD).

So far, we're at a KKI of 3 just for one word.
Post by Catherine
Still no comment on your 28+ years of knowing Harvey Berish
6. Mention of object of obsession. Nearly all the mentions of Harvey
Berish on USENET during this past year have been by Catherine. During
this calendar year, Mr. Berish has not been on USENET.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22harvey+berish%22&start=0&scoring=d&

7. Stating a dearly held wish as a 'fact' (thanks, Ross!)
Post by Catherine
and how you were so lied
to, eh Vince?
8. Mention of subject of obsession (how people in authority have lied
to hers and others over the years).
Post by Catherine
Or perhaps you have been "in service" all that time?
9. Allusion to conspiracy theory (alt.fan.art-bell added).
10. Use of terms with special meaning (kooky vocabulary).
Post by Catherine
I'll let you
define - or not - the extent of your interactions...
11. Convoluted grammar contributing to illucidity.
12. Another allusion to conspiracy theory.
Post by Catherine
-- Catherine
12 kooksigns/42 words

KKI = 0.286

*blink*

That's more than 0.13 higher than the average of 0.150 for the three
recognized kooks. I think we have a winner!

Does anyone have any suggestions for AUK awards for this
*record-setting* kook?

Also, does anyone on AUK or SPP have an opinion on Sam Vaknin as an
authority on narcissism? Some posters on RAMD are suspicious of his
credibility because 1) he's a narcissist himself, 2) his educational
credentials are suspect, and 3) Catherine quotes him regularly.

Stinku
Post by Catherine
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
This letter constitutes a permission to reprint or mirror any and all of the
materials mentioned or linked to herein subject to appropriate credit and
linkback.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
Every article published MUST include the author bio, including the link to the
author's Web site (at the bottom of this message).
===============================================================
The Roots of Pedophilia
By Sam Vaknin
Author of "Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited"
Michael Jackson was just found innocent on all ten charges of child molestation
by a
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
jury. But what was he actually charged with? What is pedophilia?
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and act on their sexual
fantasies.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
It is a startling fact that the etiology of this paraphilia is unknown.
Pedophiles
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
comes from all walks of life and have no common socio-economic background.
Contrary
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to media-propagated myths, most of them had not been sexually abused in childhood
and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the vast majority of pedophiles are also drawn to adults of the opposite sex (are
heterosexuals).
Only a few belong to the Exclusive Type - the ones who are tempted solely by
kids.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
Nine-tenths of all pedophiles are male. They are fascinated by preteen females,
teenage males, or (more rarely) both.
Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have
pedophiliac
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it.
Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed
to
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and
mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned
(and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious.
Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits. They
lack
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions. They are in
denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their
transgressions,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
claiming that the children were merely being educated for their own good and,
anyhow,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
derived great pleasure from it.
The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally
tends to
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
blame others (or the world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and
deficiencies. Pedophiles frequently accuse their victims of acting
promiscuously, of
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
"coming on to them", of actively tempting, provoking, and luring (or even
trapping) them.
The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body
language and inter-personal cues. His social communication skills are impaired
and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding circumstances (for
instance,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to the kid's age and maturity).
Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend
others
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
cause the pedophile to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness. Pedophilia
is,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses children's bodies to masturbate
with.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers disembodied,
anonymous,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often
nothing
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
more than erotic photos and screen names.
It is crucial to realize that pedophiles are not enticed by the children
themselves,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
by their bodies, or by their budding and nubile sexuality (remember Nabokov's
Lolita?). Rather, pedophiles are drawn to what children symbolize, to what
preadolescents stand for and represent.
To the pedophile ...
I. Sex with children is "free" and "daring"
Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the
pedophile's magical sense of omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority
of
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the state and the edicts of his culture and society, the pedophile experiences an
adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes the
outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.
The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have
consistently shown that pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine,
epidemics) and with major life crises (failure, relocation, infidelity of spouse,
separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the offender's
nearest
and dearest).
It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical
pedophile is depressive and with a borderline personality (low organization and
fuzzy
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
personal boundaries). Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile. The
pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated. He is likely to
suffer
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.
Paradoxically, it is by seemingly losing control in one aspect of his life (sex)
that
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the pedophile re-acquires a sense of mastery. The same mechanism is at work in
the
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
development of eating disorders. An inhibitory deficit is somehow magically
perceived as omnipotence.
II. Sex with children is corrupt and decadent
The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and
projective
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
identification in his relationships with children. He makes his victims treat
him
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the way he views himself - or attributes to them traits and behaviors that are
truly
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
his.
The pedophile is aware of society's view of his actions as vile, corrupt,
forbidden,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
evil, and decadent (especially if the pedophiliac act involves incest). He
derives
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his
view
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
of himself as "bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".
In extreme (mercifully uncommon) cases, the pedophile projects these torturous
feelings and self-perceptions onto his victims. The children defiled and abused
by
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
his sexual attentions thus become "rotten", "bad objects", guilty and punishable.
This leads to sexual sadism, lust rape, and snuff murders.
III. Sex with children is a reenactment of a painful past
Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification
of
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
innocence, genuineness, trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile
wishes
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to nostalgically recapture.
The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to
his
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
own, repressed and fearful, inner child. Through his victim, the pedophile gains
access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-like second
chance
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make
peace
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an
exercise
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
in wish fulfillment.
IV. Sex with children is a shared psychosis
The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself,
devoid
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
of a separate existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's
submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He frowns on any sign of personal
autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming, and
making
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and
from
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the rest of society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.
To the pedophile, the child is a "transitional object" - a training ground on
which
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
to exercise his adult relationship skills. The pedophile erroneously feels that
the
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
child will never betray and abandon him, therefore guaranteeing "object
constancy".
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
The pedophile - stealthily but unfailingly - exploits the vulnerabilities in the
psychological makeup of his victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a
fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence mechanisms, phobias, mental
health
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents,
siblings,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate
(autoplastic neurosis). The kid may come from an abusive family or environment -
which conditioned her or him to expect abuse as inevitable and "normal". In
extreme
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
and rare cases - the victim is a masochist, possessed of an urge to seek
ill-treatment and pain.
The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands
complete obedience from his "partner". He feels entitled to adulation and
special
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs. He
enforces discipline.
The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a
shared
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives,
and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted. The child is rendered the joint guardian
of
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
a horrible secret.
The pedophile's control is based on ambiguity, unpredictability, fuzziness, and
ambient abuse. His ever-shifting whims exclusively define right versus wrong,
desirable and unwanted, what is to be pursued and what to be avoided. He alone
determines rights and obligations and alters them at will.
The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest
details and behaviors. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of
information
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals.
The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant
and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
terrified) child. He ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or
instruments of gratification. He seeks to control both situations and people
compulsively.
The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes
often.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating
the
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
looks, talents, traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child. He is wildly
unrealistic in his expectations - which legitimizes his subsequent abusive
conduct.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful,
omnipotent, and omniscient. They often lie and confabulate to support these
unfounded claims and to justify their actions. Most pedophiles suffer from
cognitive
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.
In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law - any kind of law. This
grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous
relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities.
V. The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster
Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior". They are physically weaker,
dependent on others for the fulfillment of many of their needs, cognitively and
emotionally immature, and easily manipulated. Their fund of knowledge is limited
and
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
their skills restricted. His relationships with children buttress the
pedophile's
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and omniscience. Compared to his
victims,
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
the pedophile is always the stronger, the wiser, the most skillful and
well-informed.
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
VI. Sex with children guarantees companionship
Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and
companions. Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.
The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child. Sex
is
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merely one way to communicate his affection and caring. But there are other
venues.
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To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping
by,
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writing e-mails, giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on
the
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kid's behalf", getting into relationships with the preteen's parents, friends,
teachers, and peers, and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at
all times. The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional
decisions for the child.
The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express
wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and
preferences. To the pedophile, "love" means
enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of
being abandoned).
Moreover, no amount of denials, chastising, threats, and even outright hostile
actions convince the erotomaniac that the child not in love with him. He knows
better and will make the world see the
light as well. The child and his guardians are simply unaware of what is good
for
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the kid. The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and
happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.
Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is
convinced
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that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally
infatuated with him or her. He interprets everything the child does (or refrains
from doing) as coded messages confessing to and conveying the child's interest in
and eternal devotion to the pedophile and to the "relationship".
Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and
suffer
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from a host of mood and anxiety disorders. They may also be legitimately
involved
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with the child (e.g., stepfather, former spouse, teacher, gym instructor,
sibling) -
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or with his parents (for instance, a former boyfriend, a one night stand,
colleagues or co-workers). They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and
all-pervasive fantasies.
Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims.
They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source
of
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their mounting frustration. When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some
pedophiles
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violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.
Pedophilia is to some extent a culture-bound syndrome, defined as it is by the
chronological age of the child involved. Ephebophilia, for instance - the
exclusive
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sexual infatuation with teenagers - is not considered to be a form of pedophilia
(or
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even paraphilia).
In some cultures, societies and countries (Afghanistan, for instance) the age of
consent is as low as 12. The marriageable age in Britain until the end of the
nineteenth century was 10. Pedophilia is a common and socially-condoned practice
in
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certain tribal societies and isolated communities (the Island of Pitcairn).
It would, therefore, be wise to redefine pedophilia as an attraction to or sexual
acts with prepubescent children or with people of the equivalent mental age
(e.g.,
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retarded) in contravention of social, legal, and culturally accepted practices.
=============================================
AUTHOR BIO
Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love -
Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served
as a
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columnist for Central Europe Review, PopMatters, Bellaonline, and eBookWeb, a
United
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Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent, and the editor of mental
health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.
Until recently, he served as the Economic Advisor to the Government of Macedonia.
Visit Sam's Web site at http://samvak.tripod.com
Catherine
2005-06-26 03:57:31 UTC
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Here Vince - I'll give ya whatcha want and cross-post to alt.usenet.kooks ("AUK").
The others I've deleted.
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Here is a fourth test of the Kooksign Koncentration Index (KKI),
in which I count the number of kooksigns divided by the number
of original words by the poster I'm examining.
Perhaps this is important to some of AUK's posters. Nevertheless, Vince, it's also
interesting to see what you take so much time 'splainin' - and what you spend so much
time ignoring.

Does AUK know whom your instructors were in the 1970s, and why you are so very
interested? Drum corps people do - and decent people (unfortunately) familiar with
what child molesters (have to) do are also coming to see this.
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In this post, I'm examining Catherine Burr, someone I've presented
before to AUK, but who has not been recognized for kookiness by
AUK. Let's see if she achieves the KKI of ~0.150 averaged by
notorious kooks David Tholen, Steve Young, and Brad Jesness.
Vince - I read your nonsense below. People can search the Usenet archives and find
out that you were discussing me on RAMD before I was even active in DCI/DCA again -
or discussing it on the internet. For someone alleging to have met me in person at
1978 drum corps shows - not that I can remember you - I don't need an Index to
measure kookiness, nor what's actually (been) going on here.

AUK should also know you only speak for lying frauds on RAMD. I haven't seen the
current poll yet that voted you RAMD's god of all time. Even when you were still
pulling off the gRAMDies (and writing about it in DCW, while the lying frauds who
knew better stood by there), how many people voted? 30 - 50? And how many of those
were sock puppets?

But thanks for continuing to weigh in like this, Vince. It continues to prove all my
points, and further degrade all those "experts" who talk about "excellence" in
DCI/DCA.

And you are lying about a certain person not posting to RAMD or Usenet - unless
someone is posting under his name - oh, and my birthday, too, how nice.... Bummer,
Vince.

-- Catherine
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(Christmas Cake forgot to send this post to newsgroups where the
subject is on-topic. Error corrected and follow-ups set--Stinku)
While group-snecking may not be considered a kooksign, certain kinds of
group-snecking look suspicious. In this case, Madame Burr snecked two
groups that where the post was on-topic from her reply (Sam Vaknin's
post was about Michael Jackson, so it was on-topic for
alt.music.michael-jackson, and exposure of pedophiles on the net is
always on-topic for alt.usenet.kooks). She also replied to a poster
(me) while snecking his current home group. Therefore, I'm scoring
these as kooksigns 1 and 2.
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Liar.
3. Stereotypical lame by this poster.
4. Response that appears to have nothing to do with the passage being
responded to. Previous post was sent to groups where subject was
on-topic and follow-ups were set to those groups, so asserting that the
statement was a lie is a claim contrary to fact.
5. Demonstration of projection--Catherine is not considered to be
truthful by the majority of people who respond to her on
rec.arts.marching.drumcorps (RAMD).
So far, we're at a KKI of 3 just for one word.
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Still no comment on your 28+ years of knowing Harvey Berish
6. Mention of object of obsession. Nearly all the mentions of Harvey
Berish on USENET during this past year have been by Catherine.
During this calendar year, Mr. Berish has not been on USENET.
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22harvey+berish%22&start=0&scoring=d&
7. Stating a dearly held wish as a 'fact' (thanks, Ross!)
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and how you were so lied
to, eh Vince?
8. Mention of subject of obsession (how people in authority have lied
to hers and others over the years).
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Or perhaps you have been "in service" all that time?
9. Allusion to conspiracy theory (alt.fan.art-bell added).
10. Use of terms with special meaning (kooky vocabulary).
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I'll let you
define - or not - the extent of your interactions...
11. Convoluted grammar contributing to illucidity.
12. Another allusion to conspiracy theory.
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-- Catherine
12 kooksigns/42 words
KKI = 0.286
*blink*
That's more than 0.13 higher than the average of 0.150 for the three
recognized kooks. I think we have a winner!
Does anyone have any suggestions for AUK awards for this
*record-setting* kook?
Also, does anyone on AUK or SPP have an opinion on Sam Vaknin as an
authority on narcissism? Some posters on RAMD are suspicious of his
credibility because 1) he's a narcissist himself, 2) his educational
credentials are suspect, and 3) Catherine quotes him regularly.
Stinku
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This letter constitutes a permission to reprint or mirror any and all of the
materials mentioned or linked to herein subject to appropriate credit and
linkback.
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Every article published MUST include the author bio, including the link to the
author's Web site (at the bottom of this message).
===============================================================
The Roots of Pedophilia
By Sam Vaknin
Author of "Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited"
Michael Jackson was just found innocent on all ten charges of child molestation
by a
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jury. But what was he actually charged with? What is pedophilia?
Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children and act on their sexual
fantasies.
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It is a startling fact that the etiology of this paraphilia is unknown.
Pedophiles
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comes from all walks of life and have no common socio-economic background.
Contrary
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to media-propagated myths, most of them had not been sexually abused in childhood
and
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the vast majority of pedophiles are also drawn to adults of the opposite sex (are
heterosexuals).
Only a few belong to the Exclusive Type - the ones who are tempted solely by
kids.
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Nine-tenths of all pedophiles are male. They are fascinated by preteen females,
teenage males, or (more rarely) both.
Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have
pedophiliac
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fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it.
Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed
to
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discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and
mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned
(and
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criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious.
Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits.
They
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lack
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empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions. They are in
denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their
transgressions,
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claiming that the children were merely being educated for their own good and,
anyhow,
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derived great pleasure from it.
The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally
tends to
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blame others (or the world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and
deficiencies. Pedophiles frequently accuse their victims of acting
promiscuously, of
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"coming on to them", of actively tempting, provoking, and luring (or even
trapping) them.
The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body
language and inter-personal cues. His social communication skills are impaired
and
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he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding circumstances (for
instance,
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to the kid's age and maturity).
Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend
others
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cause the pedophile to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness.
Pedophilia
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is,
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in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses children's bodies to masturbate
with.
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Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers disembodied,
anonymous,
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masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often
nothing
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more than erotic photos and screen names.
It is crucial to realize that pedophiles are not enticed by the children
themselves,
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by their bodies, or by their budding and nubile sexuality (remember Nabokov's
Lolita?). Rather, pedophiles are drawn to what children symbolize, to what
preadolescents stand for and represent.
To the pedophile ...
I. Sex with children is "free" and "daring"
Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the
pedophile's magical sense of omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority
of
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the state and the edicts of his culture and society, the pedophile experiences an
adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes the
outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.
The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have
consistently shown that pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine,
epidemics) and with major life crises (failure, relocation, infidelity of spouse,
separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the offender's
nearest
and dearest).
It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical
pedophile is depressive and with a borderline personality (low organization and
fuzzy
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personal boundaries). Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile. The
pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated. He is likely to
suffer
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from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.
Paradoxically, it is by seemingly losing control in one aspect of his life (sex)
that
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the pedophile re-acquires a sense of mastery. The same mechanism is at work in
the
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development of eating disorders. An inhibitory deficit is somehow magically
perceived as omnipotence.
II. Sex with children is corrupt and decadent
The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and
projective
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identification in his relationships with children. He makes his victims treat
him
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the way he views himself - or attributes to them traits and behaviors that are
truly
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his.
The pedophile is aware of society's view of his actions as vile, corrupt,
forbidden,
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evil, and decadent (especially if the pedophiliac act involves incest). He
derives
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pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his
view
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of himself as "bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".
In extreme (mercifully uncommon) cases, the pedophile projects these torturous
feelings and self-perceptions onto his victims. The children defiled and abused
by
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his sexual attentions thus become "rotten", "bad objects", guilty and punishable.
This leads to sexual sadism, lust rape, and snuff murders.
III. Sex with children is a reenactment of a painful past
Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification
of
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innocence, genuineness, trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile
wishes
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to nostalgically recapture.
The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to
his
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own, repressed and fearful, inner child. Through his victim, the pedophile gains
access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-like second
chance
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to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make
peace
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with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an
exercise
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in wish fulfillment.
IV. Sex with children is a shared psychosis
The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself,
devoid
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of a separate existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's
submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He frowns on any sign of personal
autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming, and
making
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false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and
from
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the rest of society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.
To the pedophile, the child is a "transitional object" - a training ground on
which
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to exercise his adult relationship skills. The pedophile erroneously feels that
the
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child will never betray and abandon him, therefore guaranteeing "object
constancy".
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The pedophile - stealthily but unfailingly - exploits the vulnerabilities in the
psychological makeup of his victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a
fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence mechanisms, phobias, mental
health
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problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents,
siblings,
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teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate
(autoplastic neurosis). The kid may come from an abusive family or environment -
which conditioned her or him to expect abuse as inevitable and "normal". In
extreme
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and rare cases - the victim is a masochist, possessed of an urge to seek
ill-treatment and pain.
The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands
complete obedience from his "partner". He feels entitled to adulation and
special
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treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs.
He
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enforces discipline.
The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a
shared
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psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives,
and
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apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted. The child is rendered the joint guardian
of
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a horrible secret.
The pedophile's control is based on ambiguity, unpredictability, fuzziness, and
ambient abuse. His ever-shifting whims exclusively define right versus wrong,
desirable and unwanted, what is to be pursued and what to be avoided. He alone
determines rights and obligations and alters them at will.
The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest
details and behaviors. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of
information
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and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals.
The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant
and
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terrified) child. He ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or
instruments of gratification. He seeks to control both situations and people
compulsively.
The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes
often.
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He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating
the
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looks, talents, traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child. He is wildly
unrealistic in his expectations - which legitimizes his subsequent abusive
conduct.
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Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful,
omnipotent, and omniscient. They often lie and confabulate to support these
unfounded claims and to justify their actions. Most pedophiles suffer from
cognitive
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deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.
In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law - any kind of law. This
grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous
relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities.
V. The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster
Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior". They are physically weaker,
dependent on others for the fulfillment of many of their needs, cognitively and
emotionally immature, and easily manipulated. Their fund of knowledge is limited
and
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their skills restricted. His relationships with children buttress the
pedophile's
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twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and omniscience. Compared to his
victims,
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the pedophile is always the stronger, the wiser, the most skillful and
well-informed.
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VI. Sex with children guarantees companionship
Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and
companions. Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.
The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child.
Sex
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is
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merely one way to communicate his affection and caring. But there are other
venues.
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To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping
by,
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writing e-mails, giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on
the
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kid's behalf", getting into relationships with the preteen's parents, friends,
teachers, and peers, and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at
all times. The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional
decisions for the child.
The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express
wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and
preferences. To the pedophile, "love" means
enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of
being abandoned).
Moreover, no amount of denials, chastising, threats, and even outright hostile
actions convince the erotomaniac that the child not in love with him. He knows
better and will make the world see the
light as well. The child and his guardians are simply unaware of what is good
for
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the kid. The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and
happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.
Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is
convinced
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that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally
infatuated with him or her. He interprets everything the child does (or refrains
from doing) as coded messages confessing to and conveying the child's interest in
and eternal devotion to the pedophile and to the "relationship".
Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and
suffer
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from a host of mood and anxiety disorders. They may also be legitimately
involved
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with the child (e.g., stepfather, former spouse, teacher, gym instructor,
sibling) -
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or with his parents (for instance, a former boyfriend, a one night stand,
colleagues or co-workers). They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and
all-pervasive fantasies.
Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims.
They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source
of
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their mounting frustration. When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some
pedophiles
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violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.
Pedophilia is to some extent a culture-bound syndrome, defined as it is by the
chronological age of the child involved. Ephebophilia, for instance - the
exclusive
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sexual infatuation with teenagers - is not considered to be a form of pedophilia
(or
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Post by Catherine
even paraphilia).
In some cultures, societies and countries (Afghanistan, for instance) the age of
consent is as low as 12. The marriageable age in Britain until the end of the
nineteenth century was 10. Pedophilia is a common and socially-condoned practice
in
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Post by Catherine
certain tribal societies and isolated communities (the Island of Pitcairn).
It would, therefore, be wise to redefine pedophilia as an attraction to or sexual
acts with prepubescent children or with people of the equivalent mental age
(e.g.,
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Post by Catherine
retarded) in contravention of social, legal, and culturally accepted practices.
=============================================
AUTHOR BIO
Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love -
Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served
as a
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
columnist for Central Europe Review, PopMatters, Bellaonline, and eBookWeb, a
United
Post by Pinku-Sensei
Post by Catherine
Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent, and the editor of mental
health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.
Until recently, he served as the Economic Advisor to the Government of Macedonia.
Visit Sam's Web site at http://samvak.tripod.com
Catherine
2005-06-27 15:13:12 UTC
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<snip>

Richard Lamb, Vince Lamb

DCW - DrumCorpsWorld columnist

Self-alleged and self-proclaimed "RAMD's Expert on RAMD" for years [Google]

And someone who has known Harvey Berish for decades since he was your instructor, as
well as Dave Schaafsma and EVERYTHING he does, and knows "how to keep things private"
since he didn't share either that Berish was a convicted child molester or that
Berish has SO lied to you and used you all these years...

Vince Lamb, you are an enabler of predators.

From www.plonk.com

"You should be aware that if you try this with some perfectly reasonable posting, you
may be flamed to net.hell and back and probably suspected of being a net.loon
yourself. It is also considered extremely lame to nominate someone as a Kook simply
because you have lost, or at least failed to win, a debate with them;
persistently doing so is likely to get you nominated for Kook Awards. That someone
fails to perceive the self-evident, unassailable wisdom of your viewpoint does not,
in and of itself, constitute Kookery."

" ... the regs will take the truth to heart, learn that they are the cause of their
own problems ... "

Keep digging, if you so choose, with full intention...

-- Catherine

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